CULTURE EXCHANGE - Human Vessels and Architectural Fragments (NIKA NEELOVA)

CULTURE EXCHANGE - Human Vessels and Architectural Fragments (NIKA NEELOVA)

October 20, 2021

Guest artist NIKA NEELOVA 

joins me to discuss her flowing cultural story, via poet Rainer Maria Rilke's only novel 'The Notebooks of Malte Laurids Brigge', first published in 1910. We follow Brigge into the depths of the down and out cityscape as he contemplates his fellow street people, acknowledging his urgency to write while being ill-equipped to do so. 

Nika Neelova and I go on to discuss the constant country hopping of her childhood. Back then, architectural details became more reliable than the passing parade of different friends, schools, neighbourhoods and languages. So she now mines these ideas for her studio practice where architectural details are re-purposed and renewed, creating unexpected sculptural forms, drifting back, forth and around in meaning and time.

We also discuss overlapping past and future, finding modes to retrieve, drifting in and out of focus, slipping through time, panic spasms, hypersensitivity, and reality, experience and stories overlapping to become an indiscriminate montage. 


2022 '(Everything) is Not What it Seems' NITJA Museum, Oslo

25 Nov 2021 - 7 Jan 2022 'b bl b' Garage off-site project, Moscow

10 Nov 2021 - 30 Jan 2022 'Not Painting' Copperfield, London

22 Oct 2021 - Dec 2022 'Silt' Brighton CCA

11 Sep 2021 - 20 Nov 2021  'One of Many Fragments : Edward Allington and Nika Neelova' New Art Centre, Roche Court, Salisbury


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Ana Mendieta

Andrei Tarkovsky (film director)

Barbara Hepworth

Emma Cousin

Eva Hesse

Eva Rothschild

Fra Angelico 

Holly Hendry

Jane Hayes Greenwood

Louise Bourgeois

Phyllida Barlow

Rachel Whiteread

Piero della Francesco


Anna Lowenhaupt Tsing 'The Mushroom at the End of the World'

Annie Ernaux 'The Years'

Donna Haraway 'Staying with the Trouble' 

Edmund de Waal 'The Hare with the Amber Eyes'

Henrik Ibsen (playwright)

Maggie Nelson 'The Argonauts'

Manuel DeLanda 'A Thousand Years of Non-Linear History'

Margaret Atwood 'The Testaments'

Martin Heidegger 'The Basic Problems of Phenomenology'

Max Frisch 'Man in the Holocene'

Jean Paul Sartre 'Nausea'

Ocean Vuong 'On Earth We're Briefly Beautiful'

Rainer Maria Rilke 'The Notebooks of Malte Laurids Brigge' 

Susan Sontag 'The Volcano Lover' 

Tibor Fischer 'The Collector Collector'

Tom McCarthy 'Remainder'

Tom McCarthy 'Satin Island'

Virginia Woolf 'The Waves'

Welcome to Art Fictions CULTURE EXCHANGE !

Welcome to Art Fictions CULTURE EXCHANGE !

October 16, 2021

Welcome and Welcome Back to this new series of ART FICTIONS 'CULTURE EXCHANGE' which is part of the British Council and Australian Government's UK / Australia Exchange Season. This special edition of episodes will run until the end of March 2022. Elizabeth Fullerton and Jillian Knipe will discuss the artistic practices of our guests in the usual way - through the prism of their selected piece of fiction - though, for CULTURE EXCHANGE, there'll be a particular tilt towards cultural identity : the boundaries, hurdles, opportunities and possibilities which both curb and open up the artist's practice, as a result of their sense of culture being upended or especially challenged in a way that is unique to each life story. 

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Mechanical Bodies and Dissected Detritus (HOLLY HENDRY)

Mechanical Bodies and Dissected Detritus (HOLLY HENDRY)

September 30, 2021

Guest artist HOLLY HENDRY

joins ELIZABETH FULLERTON to chat about her work via Tom McCarthy's 2005 novel 'Remainder' in which the nameless narrator must re-learn body movements after a debilitating accident. He is awarded a ridiculous sum in compensation which he uses to re-enact past happenings in microscopic detail, increasingly absurd and violent in nature.

Holly is a lot more pleasant. However, she is also compelled to open up the surface of objects to discover what's inside. How things work. And when that cannot be done physically, it is explored as an idea. 

Elizabeth and Holly discuss her major recent, current and upcoming exhibitions:

Jan 2022 solo exhibition at Stephen Friedman Gallery, London

29 May - 12 Nov 2021 'Invertebrate' De La Warr Pavilion, Bexhill

May 2021 - Mar 2023 group exhibition 'Breaking The Mould, Sculpture by Women since 1945 An Arts Council Collection Touring Exhibition, for venues refer to

Oct - Mar 2022 group exhibition 'Beano: The Art of Breaking the Rules' Somerset House, London

19 May - 30 Aug 2021 'Indifferent Deep' De La Warr Pavilion, Bexhill

Sep 2019 - Apr 2020 'The Dump Is Full of Images' Yorkshire Sculpture Park, Wakefield



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Andy Holden

Astrida Neimanis

Helen Turner, E-Werk Luckenwalde, Berlin

Isamu Noguchi

Le Corbusier

Louise Bourgeois 

Rebecca Horn


Albert Camus 'The Stranger'

Beatriz Colomina 'X Rays in Architecture'

Eric Carle 'The Very Hungry Catepillar'

J G Ballard 'The Drowned World'

Maggie Nelson

Miles Orvell 'The Real Thing'

Rebecca Tamas 'Strangers : Essays on the Human and Nonhuman'

Tom McCarthy 'C'


De La Warr Pavilion

Liverpool Bienniel

Professor Parick Goswami, University of Huddersfield

Royal College of Art


Somerset House

Stephen Friedman Gallery

The Baltic

The International Necronautical Society

Whitehall Fabrications

Yorkshire Sculpture Park


Buster Keaton

Pauline Oliveros

Robert De Niro

'Who Framed Roger Rabbit?'




Shadowy Nuance and Colourful Movement (FIONA GRADY)

Shadowy Nuance and Colourful Movement (FIONA GRADY)

September 13, 2021

Guest artist FIONA GRADY

joins me to chat about her work via Jun'ichirō Tanazaki's 1933 essay 'In Praise of Shadows'. The text describes eastern aesthetics being driven by the west, resulting in the loss of Japanese tradition and the loss of the shadow. 

Fiona Grady and I discuss her own praise of shadows, working with semi translucent colours on glass, wall murals and watercolours which celebrate subtlety, reflection and the elusiveness of the object of which, I'm quite certain, Tanazaki would approve. 



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'Close to Home: The Everyday Sublime' JGM Gallery til 25 Sep 2021

'Kaleidoscope Prisms' Canary Wharf til end October 2021

'The Factory Project' October 2021

upcoming at The Foundry Gallery 2022



Alfred Hitchcock

Anna Lytridou

Anne Veronica Janssens

Beatriz Milhazes

Ben McDonnell

Bridget Riley

Charley Peters

Daniel Buren

David Batchelor

Eric Thorpe

Félix González-Torres

Fumio Asakura

Gordon Matta-Clark

Hannah Luxton

James Turrell

Jane Hayes Greenwood

Julie F Hill

Linda Hemmersbach 

Nick Stavri

Poppy Whatmore

Sol leWitt

Tim Ralston

Vivienne Maier

Yukako Shibata



Haruki Murakami 'Hard-Boiled Wonderland and the End of the World' 1985

Leonard Koren 'Wabi-Sabi for Artists, Designers, Poets & Philosophers' 1984

Maggie Nelson 'The Argonauts' 2015



Artist's Support Pledge

Asakura Museum of Sculpture


Derix Glasstudios, Germany

JGM Gallery, London

Kevin Gauld Architecture

Leeds Arts University

Nightingale Arts

'Passengers' Residency, The Brunswick Centre


Recreational Grounds

Sid Motion Gallery

The Art Station, Suffolk

The Foundry Gallery

White Conduit Projects, London

Edged Forms and Rhythmic Waves (HANNAH HUGHES)

Edged Forms and Rhythmic Waves (HANNAH HUGHES)

July 29, 2021

Guest artist HANNAH HUGHES 

joins ELIZABETH FULLERTON to chat about her work via Virginia Woolf's 1931 novel 'The Waves'. Not so much a story as a stream (or perhaps, more accurately, a wave) of consciousness, the book is classified as an experimental fiction. It describes the thoughts of six characters through soliloquies, whose lives all pivot around the muted Percival. 

Hannah and Elizabeth then open up the artist's practice as collages, cuts and slide-throughs of shadowy forms and real edges. They track how shapes are formed from in-between spaces around objects and the body, how multiple processes distance the form from its source, the invention of visual language and the importance of fragmentations which create a sense of the whole.


Al Loving
Ana Mendieta
Eva Hesse
Trisha Brown
Yvonne Rainer
Amy Sillman 'The Shape of Shape' 2019 zine and MoMA exhibition
Hilma Af Klimt 'Notes and Methods' 2018
Jess Chandler, Aimee Selby, Hana Noorali & Lynton Talbot, published by Prototype (editors) 'Intertitles: An anthology at the intersection of writing and visual art' 2021
Marina Abramovic 'Walk Through Walls' 2017
Roxana Robinson 'Georgia O’Keeffe: A Life' 1999
Yvonne Rainer 'Feelings Are Facts' 2016
'Talk Art' Russell Tovey and Robert Diamant
'Chats with Artists in Lockdown' Emma Cousins
'Sound and Vision' Brian Alfred
'Great Women Artists' Katy Hessel
Sid Motion Gallery



Embodied Violence and Persistent Ambivalence (LUKE BURTON)

Embodied Violence and Persistent Ambivalence (LUKE BURTON)

July 6, 2021

Guest artist LUKE BURTON

joins me to chat about his work via Ben Lerner's 2019 novel 'The Topeka School'. The story revolves around Adam Gordon and his parents, and the ambivalence of language as both a pathway to reparation and a driving force towards violence. 

Luke Burton and I go on to discuss his own ambivalence, working with and against male and masculine archetypes in Western art. We acknowledge the ability of psychotherapy to excavate knowledge you didn't previous have about yourself, the selective access to language, the aggression within public rhetoric and language as spells. 


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'Impossible Weather' solo exhibition 2020 Bosse and Baum

'The Artist Oracle' Sep 2021 White Crypt


Coptic Textiles

Donald Judd

Hans Holbein the Younger

Lee Krasner

Neil Cummings

'Rebel Without A Cause' 1955 film


Adam Phillips 'Attention Seeking' 2019

Ben Lerner 'Leaving the Atocha Station' 2011

Ben Lerner '10:04' 2014

Ben Lerner 'Contest of Words' Harper's Magazine 2016

Harriet Lerner, clinical psychologist and author

Isabel Hardman 'Why We Get the Wrong Politicians' 2018

Lidija Haas 'The Guardian' 4 Nov 2019

Owen Jones 'The Grammar of Ornament' 1856

Rachel Kusk 'Outline' 2014 'Transit' 2016 'Kudos' 2018


Barbican Gallery, London

Girton College, University of Cambridge 

Victoria and Albert Museum V&A






Bold Resilience and Rightful Restoration (KAREN McLEAN)

Bold Resilience and Rightful Restoration (KAREN McLEAN)

June 11, 2021

Guest artist KAREN McLEAN

joins Elizabeth Fullerton to chat about her work via Colson Whitehead's 2016 novel 'The Underground Railroad' published by Doubleday. The historical fiction tells of 19th century slaves Cora and Caesar and their attempts to escape to freedom in America's south west.


Starting with her intensely researched art practice, Karen McLean and Elizabeth explore stories of rebellion and suffering amongst individuals and the collective, including female power, body ownership, intergenerational identity, mental illness and a vast knowledge of plants used as a method of resistance. They also delve into the structural legacies created by the sugar, cotton and indigo industries; colonialism, covert operations, syncretic religions, and the rise of the blue devil.


(This episode is co-produced by Jillian Knipe and Elizabeth Fullerton with music by Griffin Knipe and image by Joanna Quinn of Beryl Productions)



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'Blue Power' 2021 Block 336

'Ar'n't I A Woman' 2021 Block 336

'The Precariat' 2017 Lewisham Arthouse


Anish Kapoor

Donald Judd

Doris Salcedo

El Anatsui

Eva Hesse 'Contingent' 1968

Gees Bend Quiltmakers, Alabama

Ibrahim Mahama

Joseph Beuys

Kara Walker

Louise Bourgeois

Paul Goodwin

Sheila Gowda

Teresa Margolles

Theaster Gates

Tracey Emin


Alan Krell 'The Devil's Rope: A Cultural History of Barbed Wire' 2002

Alice Walker 'Everyday Use' 1973

Bell Hooks 'Ain't I A Woman: Black Women and Feminism' 1981

Deborah Grey White 'Ar'n't I A Woman' 1985

Edward Said (Professor of Literature, Columbia University)

Emily Zobel Marshall 'Anansi's Journey: A Story of Jamaican Cultural Resistance' 2012

Harriet Tubman, 'Harriet' film 2019

Hilary Beckles 'Natural Rebels' 1989

Homi Bhabha 'Of Mimicry and Man: The Ambivalence of Colonial Discourse' 1984

Jacques Lacan (psychoanalyst)

Sojourner Truth (abolotionist, women's rights activist) 'Ain't I A Woman' speech 1851

Toni Morrison 'Beloved' 1987


Afterprojects, Julie Bentley

Birmingham City University

Black Cultural Archives, Brixton UK

Block 336, Brixton UK

Gees Bend Quilting Retreat

Goldsmiths University of London UK

King's Cross Station, London UK

Shakespeare's House, Stratford UK

The Gale Plantation, Jamaica, Caribbean

The New Art Gallery, Walsall UK

The Steamhouse, Birmingham UK

Trinidad & Tobago, Caribbean



Contemplative Cracks and Lo-Fi Tech (DEAN KENNING)

Contemplative Cracks and Lo-Fi Tech (DEAN KENNING)

May 24, 2021

Guest artist DEAN KENNING

joins me to chat about his work via John Maxwell Coetzee's 2013 allegorical novel 'The Childhood of Jesus'. The story revolves around five year old David with his father-by-default Símon, on their quest to find a mother for the boy and a better life for the three of them. 

Winner of this year's prestigious Mark Tanner Sculpture Award, Dean Kenning, and I go on to discuss his clunky sculptures, social body-mind maps and his philosophical mish mash 'Metallurgy of the Subject'. We delve into the cracks between the flatness to explore ideas around satire, proliferation, bad infinity, socialist utopia, universal modes of seeing the world, common language, allegorical imagery, the importance of the father, avoidance of composition, a dislike for kinetic work, redundant technology, history as a bloody struggle and poo in sausages.


(This episode is produced by Jillian Knipe with music by Griffin Knipe and image by Joanna Quinn of Beryl Productions)



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'The Origin of Life' 2019

'Psychobotanical' 2019 Matt's Gallery

'Renaissance Man' 2017

'Metallurgy of the Subject' ongoing



Antony Gormley 'Angel of the North' 1998

David Bowie (musician)

Emma Cousin 'Chats in Lockdown' podcast

English Heretic (musicians)

Hieronymus Bosch

Kiki Smith 'Her Memory' Fundació Joan Miró

Leonardo da Vinci 'Vitruvian Man'

Paul McCarthy 'Painter' 1995



Benjamin Markovits (writer)

C L R James 'The Black Jacobins' 1938

Colm Tóibín 'The Testament of Mary' 2012

Franz Schubert (composer)

Immanuel Kant (philosopher)

J M Coetzee 'Disgrace' 1999

J M Coetzee 'Waiting for the Barbarians' 1980

Johann Wolfgang von Goethe 'Erlkönig' 1782

Jacques Lacan (psychoanalyist)

Jean Fisher (professor, art critic, writer)

Jean-Luc Nancy 'The Inoperative Community' 1986

John Roberts (philosopher) 'Dean Kenning's Kinetics' 2019

Jorge Luis Borges 'Three Versions of Judas' 1944

Joyce Carol Oates 'My Life as a Rat' 2019

Karl Marx

Kazuo Ishiguro 'The Buried Giant' 2015

Plato 'Republic' 375BC

Russell Hoban 'Riddley Walker' 1980

Susan Buck-Morss (professor, philosopher, historian)

William Burrows (writer)

William Morris 'Useful Work versus Useless Toil' 1885

Walter Benjamin (philosopher)

William Playfair (engineer)



'Day of the Triffids' from 1981 

'Dr Who' from 1963

Kenny Everett


Seductive Feathers and Brutal Beasts (KATE MccGWIRE)

Seductive Feathers and Brutal Beasts (KATE MccGWIRE)

May 10, 2021

Guest artist KATE MccGWIRE

joins Elizabeth Fullerton to chat about her work via American wildlife scientist Delia Owens' 2018 novel 'Where the Crawdads Sing'. In an ode to the beauty and violence of nature, the story centres around wild "marsh girl" Kya Clark. Abandoned and isolated from childhood, young Kya relies on nature to teach her the basics of survival as well as deluding her that one day she will be rescued. Interaction with other humans provides a whole different set of support and threatening challenges. 


Identifying with Kya's barefoot 'n' wild soul, Kate MccGwire and Elizabeth Fullerton share stories of herons, crows, eagles, magpies, blackbirds, turkeys, pheasants, tropicbirds and the confounding snobbiness around pigeons and doves who are both part of the Columbidae family. They go on to explore snakes, oozing, gushing, skin, bones, intestines and scrotum' as well as darkness, resilience, rapture, seductions, repulsion, calm, turbulence, obsessiveness, working intensely, choir singing and Kate achieving a distinction for her dissertation at the Royal College despite being dyslexic. 


(This episode is co-produced by Jillian Knipe and Elizabeth Fullerton with music by Griffin Knipe and image by Joanna Quinn of Beryl Productions)



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'Cavort' 2020

'Sluice' 2009

'Sominal' 2019



Akram Khan

Berlinde de Bruyckere

Doris Salcedo

Eva Hesse

Helen Chadwick

Helmut Lang


Lancelot 'Capability' Brown

Mona Hatoum

Robert Adam 

Thomas Chippendale



Annie Proulx 'Barkskins' 2016

Douglas Stuart 'Shuggie Bain' 2020

Khaled Hosseini 'A Thousand Splendid Suns' 2007

Margaret Atwood 'Dearly: Poems' 2020

Tim Winton 'The Shepherd’s Hut' 2018



Galerie Les Filles du Calvaire 

Grand Palais Éphémère 'Art Paris' 2021 contemporary art fair

Harewood House, Leeds

The Lowry, Manchester



'It’s a Sin' written by Russel T Davies



Benjamin Britten 'Peter Grimes' 1945

Henry Purcell 'Hear my prayer, O Lord' 1682

Henry Purcell 'Lord, How Long Wilt Thou Be Angry'




Meandering Mourning and Collaged Reality (FIONA CURRAN)

Meandering Mourning and Collaged Reality (FIONA CURRAN)

April 23, 2021

Guest artist FIONA CURRAN 


joins me to chat about her work via Esther Kinsky's 2020 novel 'Grove : A Field Guide'. The story is directed by a narrator who takes a trip to a village on the outskirts of Rome which was supposed to be an adventure with her recently deceased partner. 

Fiona and I go on to discuss how the work of her current solo exhibition developed during lockdown and a nasty bout of covid, as well as an earlier, major outdoor installation. We expand on landscape as a character, contemporary poetry, a balance of bleak and beauty, loss of identity through grief, looking for solace in the landscape, loving everything Italian, beyond the optical, seduction of the screen, the colour blue, extreme fatigue, memory flooding into the present, sanitisation of nature, resurfacing, fragmentation, aimlessness, hovering, disorientation and losing a sense of self. 


(This episode is produced by Jillian Knipe with music by Griffin Knipe and image by Joanna Quinn of Beryl Productions)



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'Jump Cut, Still Life' solo exhibition at Broadway Gallery

'Your Sweetest Empire is to Please' outdoor installation at Gibson Estate



Anna Maria Garthwaite

Anni Albers

Florence Peake

Fra Angelico

Gunta Stöltzl

Hannah Luxton

Hélio Oticica

Henri Matisse

Lindsay Seers

Lygia Clark

Lygia Pape

Mary Heilman

Raoul De Keyser

Sonia Delaunay



Anne Truitt 'Daybook : The Journal of an Artist' 1982

Esther Kinsky 'River' 2014

Jeremy Cooper 'Bolt from the Blue' 2021

Joanne Kyger 'The Japan and India Journals 1960-1964' 1981

Linda J Lear 'Rachel Carson : Witness for Nature' 1994

Rachel Carson 'Silent Spring' 1962

Rebecca Solnit 'A Field Guide to Getting Lost' 2005



Bosse & Baum

Broadway Gallery, Letchworth



Gibside Estate

Kew Gardens

Mary Eleanor Bows 1749-1800

Mary Wollstonecroft 1759-1797

Paul Virilio 1932-2018



Michelangelo Antonioni 'Red Desert' 1964 starring Monica Vitti

Pier Paolo Pasolini 'The Hawks and the Sparrows' 1966 'Notes Towards and African Orestes' 1970

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