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ART FICTIONS is fortnightly programme, created by artist Jillian Knipe. Each guest artist selects a piece of fiction, which we both explore, then use as a lens through which to view their artwork. We delve into the book‘s themes, context and characters, which opens up and steers a rich conversation about the artist‘s practice. The podcast bounces back and forth between art and text, all the while focussing on the ideas which govern both. It is a way of talking alongside art, rather than directly at it, getting close and personal with the origins of artistic ideas. Follow @artfictionspodcast Instagram for images of works and links, and see the podcast notes for all the references mentioned. Support via patreon.com/ARTFICTIONSPODCAST.
Episodes
Friday May 12, 2023
Friday May 12, 2023
Guest artist mentor CERI HAND joins artist and writer JILLIAN KNIPE to discuss her creative practice via 'The Blazing World' 2014 by Siri Hustvedt and published by Hodder & Stoughton. Longlisted for the Booker Prize and winner of the Los Angeles Times Book Prize for Fiction, it tells tales of the life of artist Harriet Burden. Presented across snapshots of journal entries and testimonies by her family, friends and colleagues, the accounts are compiled and edited by academic researcher I.V. Hess after Harriet's death. Furious with the cultural misogyny that's left her all but ignored by the New York art world, Harriet hides her identity behind three male fronts in a series of exhibitions. While their huge success goes to prove her point, when she finally unmasks herself, not everyone believes her.
CERI HAND
cerihand.com
@cerihand
artistmentor.co.uk
ARTISTS
Christo Vladimirov Javacheff 1935–2020
Eva Hesse 1936-1970
Evlyne Laurin, Creative Legacy Steward and Fine Art Appraiser
Jane Hayes Greenwood
Sir Horace Shango Ové CBE
Yayoi Kusama
Zak Ové
WRITERS + BOOKS
Cherry Smyth
Dan Sullivan with Dr Benjamin Hardy '10X is Easier than 2X: How World-Class Entrepreneurs Achieve More by Doing Less' 2023
John Milton 'Paradise Lost' 1667
John Steinbeck 'Of Mice and Men' 1937
Margaret Lucas Cavendish 1623-1673
Rachel Cusk
INSTITUTIONS + GALLERIES
Castor Gallery
ICA
Somerset House 'Get Up Stand Up Now: Generations of Black Creative Pioneers' 2019
The Women's Art Library 'Make' magazine
Friday Apr 28, 2023
Friday Apr 28, 2023
Guest artist SUSAN SCHUPPLI joins art critic and author ELIZABETH FULLERTON to discuss her art practice via 'The Second Body' 2017 by Daisy Hildyard, published by Fitzcarraldo Books. Listed by the 'White Review' on their Books of the Year 2018, the essay presents the dissolving boundaries between all life on earth, with an updated dualism between the animal bodies in which we eat, breathe, and sleep and the virtual bodies of our global connections and environmental impacts.
Susan and Elizabeth discuss dissolving boundaries, plausible deniability, beached whales, deep time, gathering poems, chattering glaciers, foetus ownership, critical proximity, living on ice, images creating barriers, Princess Diana's wedding dress, bodies eating distance, and changing paradigms. Plus, they question where environmental knowledge resides and which modes of representation might inspire action.
SUSAN SCHUPPLI
susanschuppli.com
@susan_schuppli
'Earthrise' is a photograph of Earth and some of the Moon 's surface that was taken from lunar orbit by astronaut William Anders on 24 December 24 1968 during the Apollo 8 mission.
Ultrasound was first used for clinical purposes in mid 1950s but not used widely in British and American hospitals till 1970s for foetus imaging.
In April 1965, 'Life' put a photograph called Foetus 18 Weeks on its cover which caused a sensation. The issue became the fastest-selling copy in the magazine's entire history.
The Keeling Curve is a graph of the accumulation of carbon dioxide in the earth's atmosphere based on continuous measurements taken at the Mauna Loa Observatory in Hawaii from 1958 to the present day.
BOOKS + THINKERS
Christina Elizabeth Sharpe, American academic, Professor of English Literature and Black Studies at York University, Toronto, Canada
Daisy Hildyard 'The Footprint's Story: Princess Diana's Jewels and Carbon' Orion magazine, Winter Issue 30 Nov 2022
Dr Adrian Lahoud, Dean of the School of Architecture, Royal College of Art
Joseph Conrad
Silvia Federici 'Caliban and the Witch: : Women, the Body and Primitive Accumulation' 2004
Sven Oskar Lindqvist 'Exterminate all the Brutes: One Man's Odyssey into the Heart of Darkness and the Origins of European Genocide' 2007
Sheila Watt-Cloutier 'The Right to Be Cold: One Woman's Story of Protecting Her Culture, the Arctic and the Whole Planet' 2015
Ursula K Le Guin 'The Carrier Bag Theory of Fiction' 1986
FILM + DIRECTORS
Chantal Akerman
'Nostalgia for the Light' Patricio Guzmán, 2010
Stanley Kubrick '2001: A Space Odyssey' 1968
ORGANISATIONS
Bergin Kunsthalle, Norway
Berlin Biennale
Forensic Architecture
Goldsmiths University
Sculpture Center, New York
Toronto Biennial of Art
Wednesday Apr 12, 2023
Wednesday Apr 12, 2023
Guest artist SOPHIE RUIGROK joins VANESSA MURRELL of DATEAGLE to discuss her art practice via 'Nobody Belongs Here More Than You' 2007 by Miranda July, published by Canongate Books. Winner of the Frank O'Connor International Short Story Award, it conveys 16 stories of lonely characters desperately trying to make connections. Their means vary from quirky to the absurd and mostly only result in the disillusion of coinciding in the same space.
Sophie and Vanessa talk about escape, clouds, tears, Buddhism, role playing, manifesting reality, body leaking, collapsing flesh, wearing wigs, cold showers, hypersensitive characters, contemporary spiritualism, movie-set extras, expressing the psyche, masks as mediators, disconnected lonely people, swimming on the carpet, beautifully weird realisations about humanity, the loss of fantasy, appropriating from art history, being allergic to the world, true signs of falsehood, and Sophie using her fingers to make images of fingers before dipping her toe into oil paint.
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SOPHIE RUIGROK
@sophie.ruigrok
'In Three Acts' Huxley Parlour 27 April - 27 May 2023
'Stilled Images' Tube Gallery, Mallorca opens 10 June 2023
ARTISTS
Alfred Stieglitz
Andrea Mantegna
Francis Bacon
Gian Lorenzo Bellini 'The Ecstasy of Saint Theresa' 1652
Hans Memling, hellscapes
Jan and Hubert Van Eck 'The Ghent Alterpiece' Belgium 1432
Katarina Caserman
René Magritte
GALLERIES
Marlborough 'Love is the Devil: Studies after Francis Bacon' 2022
Tabula Rasa 'It's Better to be Cats Than be Loved' 2022
The Sunday Painter 'Today I Feel Relevant and Alive' 2022
WRITERS
Carl Jung
Susan Stewart 'On Longing: Narratives of the Miniature, the Gigantic, the Souvenir, the Collection' 1984
FILMS
'Interstellar' 2014
'The Truman Show' 1998
'Thelma and Louise' 1991
Thursday Mar 23, 2023
Thursday Mar 23, 2023
Guest artist NICOLA BEALING
joins JILLIAN KNIPE to discuss her work via 'Pastoralia' 2020 by George Saunders. Published Riverhead Books, the book contains six short stories each presenting snapshots of contemporary American existence delivered in a deadpan, razorsharp tone, and enshrouded with dark humour.
We talk about dark humour, executions, internal panic, male strippers, 18th century working class fabrics, Goya being God, cruelty, Stasi prison, cave people, hazardous shitholes, bum cracks, lungs filling with blood, penis simulators, pictures popping up behind your eyes, boring objects, unaffordable medical care, apprenticeships, being trapped, funny voices, hot sexy breeding age, slogans of false hope, bags of human waste, hiding what's underneath and the tiny details that make up a life.
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NICOLA BEALING
nicolabealing.co.uk
@nicola_bealing
'The Borough' at Matt's Gallery London 15 March - 16 April 2023
ARTISTS
Alice Browne
Alice Neel
Benjamin Britten
Erich Heckel
Ernst Ludwig Kirchner
Francisco Goya
George Grosz
Hieronymus Bosch
Montagu Slater
Otto Dix
Pieter Bruegel the Elder
Sidney Nolan
BOOKS + AUTHORS
Aldous Huxley 'Brave New World' 1932
Broadside Ballads
E M Forster
Federico Garcia Lorca 'Blood Wedding' 1932
'Face' magazine
George Crabbe 'Peter Grimes' Letter XXII of 'The Borough' 1810
George Saunders 'A Swim in a Pond in the Rain: In Which Four Russians Give a Master Class on Writing, Reading, and Life' 2021
GALLERIES + MUSEUMS + GALLERISTS
British Museum
Foundling Museum
Museum of Cornish Life (Helston)
Royal Cornwall Museum (Truro)
Salisbury Art Centre
Tim Dixon
Thursday Mar 09, 2023
Thursday Mar 09, 2023
Guest artist FLORENCE PEAKE joins ELIZABETH FULLERTON to discuss her multi-faceted, performance-led art practice via 'Stone Butch Blues' 1993 by Leslie Feinberg. It tells the story of life as a butch lesbian in 1970s, working class America and is particularly unique due to the writer gaining full rights to the text, making it fully accessible online and for free.
Florence and Elizabeth talk about hysterical clay, collapsing paintings, mark-making without sight, rigid heteronormative conventions, the patriarchy's rule which brings a perpetual fear of violence, butch lesbians in the 70s, drag queens, sex workers and femmes, extractions of earthly matter and energy, the dance floor as a space for belonging and expression, splattering the audience with clay, tenderness and care, finding comfort in the face of shame, and encountering ourselves imaginatively in relationship to objective reality.
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FLORENCE PEAKE
florencepeake.com
insta florence_peake
Richard Saltoun Gallery
2023 16 April - 2 July 'Factual Actual Ensemble' at Southwark Park Galleries then touring to Fruitmarket Gallery and Towner Gallery
2023 11 Feb - 7 May 'Earth Spells: Witches of the Anthropocene' at RAM Museum, Exter with Caroline Achaintre, Emma Hart, Kris Lemsalu, Mercedes Mühleisen, Grace Ndiritu, Florence Peake, Kiki Smith, Lucy Stein
2023 18 Feb - 6 May 'Body Poetics' at Giant, Bournemouth with Penny Slinger, Helen Chadwick, Florence Peake, Louise Bourgeois, Judy Chicago, Charlotte Edey, Enam Gbewonyo, Rosie Gibbens, Guerrilla Girls, Evan Ifekoya, Ad Minoliti, Senga Nengudi, Niki De Saint Phalle, Carolee Schneemann, Tai Shani, Kiki Smith, Rae-Yen Song, Holly Stevenson curated by Marcelle Joseph and Bella Pelly-Fry
2021 Factual Actual at National Gallery
2021-22 Crude Care for British Art Show at Aberdeen Art Gallery then touring UK
2019 Apparition Apparition at Venice Biennale
2018 RITE: on this pliant body we slip our WOW! at De La Warr Pavillion
2015 Voicings for Block Universe at Modern Art Oxford, Somerset House
ARTISTS + PERFORMERS
Cameron Armitage
Carolee Schneeman 'Meat Joy'
Donald Judd
Emma Hart
Eve Stainton
Fabian Peake
Igor Sravinsky 'The Rite of Spring'
Gabi Agis
Grayson Duitu
Jo Moran
Jordan McKenzie
Kate Bush
Lee Bowie
Lindsey Kemp
Mercedes Grower
Michael Clarke 'I am a Curious Orange'
Rosemary Butcher
Siobhan Davis Studios
Tai Shani
The Fall
Yvonne Rainer
BOOKS
Juliet Jacques 'Variations' 2021
Carmen Maria Machado 'In the Dreamhouse' 2019
Octavia Butler
Wednesday Feb 22, 2023
Wednesday Feb 22, 2023
Guest author JENNIFER HIGGIE joins JILLIAN KNIPE to discuss her art writing practice via 'Drive Your Plow Over the Bones of the Dead' by Olga Tokarczuk. It's a compelling murder mystery set in a small mountainside village in Poland. As Winter caretaker of neighbouring properties, Janina spends her spare time translating the poems of William Blake into Polish with her friend and ex-student Dizzy.
We talk about how women found agency within the rise of spiritualism, telephoning the dead, art history as a work in progress, tigers of wrath, the golden age of female detective fiction, hanging out in Greece, bridge builders, astrology, precognitive dreams, human cruelty, climate crisis, bad writers, ghosts, eccentricities that make complete sense, taking your brain with all of its complications wherever you go, and Jennifer's passion for histories of exclusion, particularly those of women.
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JENNIFER HIGGIE
jenniferhiggie.com
instagram jennifer_higgie
BOOKS + AUTHORS + PUBLISHERS
Agatha Christie
Annie Besant 'Thought Forms' 1906
Brian Dillon 'Affinities' 2023
Dorothy L Sayers
Fitzcarraldo Editions
Georgio Vasari 'The Lives of the Most Excellent Painters, Sculptors, and Architects' 1550
Griselda Pollock
Hetty Judah
Jennifer Higgie 'The Other Side: A Journey into Women, Art and the Spirit World' 2023
Jennifer Higgie 'The Mirror and the Palette' 2021
Jennifer Higgie 'Bedlam' 2006
J M Coetzee 'The Childhood of Jesus' 2013
Katie Hessel
Linda Nochlin
Madame Blavatsky
Margary Allingham
Michael Bracewell 'Unfinished Business' 2023
Orion Publishing Group
Virginia Woolf
William Blake
ARTISTS
Dean Kenning
Donna Huddleston 'Brighter' 2021
Frances Richardson
Georgiana Houghton
Helen Johnson
Hildagard of Bingen
Hilma af Klint
Homer 'Odyssey' 1614
Kazimir Malovich
Katie Pratt
Margo Neale
Mary Wigman
Paul Klee
Richard Dadd 'The Fairy Fellers Master Stroke' 1855-64
Sarah Lucas
Tracy Emin
Wassily Kandinsky 'Composition V' 1911
GALLERIES + MUSEUMS + CURATORS
Cabaret Voltaire, Zürich 'Dada'
Camden Arts Centre 'Making and Unmaking' 2016
Duo Olowu
Hugh Lane, Dublin
Margo Neale, First Nations Curator, Museum of Australia, Canberra
Modernity, Stockholm
MUMA, Monash University, Melbourne
Simon Lee, London
Tate Britain
Tate Modern 'A Year in Art: Australia 1992'
The Box, Plymouth 'Songlines: Tracking the Seven Sisters'
OTHER
BBC3 'The Essay' Jennifer Higgie 'Artists and the Spirit World'
Emanuel Swedenborg
Frieze magazine
Jennifer Higgie scriptwriter 'I Really Hate My Job' 2007
Lucracia Dalt
Marie Curie
Mark Tanner Award
Thomas Edison
Wednesday Feb 08, 2023
Wednesday Feb 08, 2023
Guest artist KATIE PRATT
joins JILLIAN KNIPE to discuss her work via 'Once in Europa' 1987 by John Berger. As part of the 'Into Our Labours' trilogy, the novel is set in an alpine village and describes grounded charm and limiting isolation against the encroaching industrialisation of urban life.
We talk about the disorganised surface, organic and geometric, the French Alps, industrial revolution, the mass of strike actions across UK industries right now (and for good reason), a certain lack of idealism, sharing of the planet's resources, how communities might organise themselves, and the myriad of invisible, and often complex systems, that structure our lives and Katie's paintings.
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KATIE PRATT
katiepratt.net
instagram katiepratt_artist
'Reverse Parking' curated by Katie Pratt and Peter Lamb, 23 Feb - 12 Mar 2023 Thames-side Studios Main Gallery with Gordon Cheung, Will Cruickshank, Cristallina Fischetti, Oona Grimes, Paul Hosking, Peter Lamb, Katie Pratt
BOOKS
'A Painter of Our Time' 1958 John Berger
'Ways of Seeing' 1972 John Berger
'Why Look at Animals' 2009 John Berger
ARTISTS
Andrew Bick
Franz Haus
Jonathan Parsons
Johannes Vermeer
John Bunker
Jackson Pollock
Lee Krasner
L S Lowry
Matt Dennis
Nan Goldin
Peter Lamb
Rosalind Davis
Vera Mulnár
Wassily Kandinsky
Willem de Kooning
OTHER
'All the Beauty and the Bloodshed' 2022
Guggenheim, New York
'Jean de Florette' 1999
Karl Marx
Tate Galleries, London
Thames-side Gallery and Studios
Turps Painting Course
Victoria & Albert Museum, London
'Ways of Seeing' 1972 BBC
Friday Apr 29, 2022
Friday Apr 29, 2022
Guest artist ANNA PERACH
joins ELIZABETH FULLERTON to discuss her work via 'The Victorian Chaise Longue' 1953 by Marghanita Laski. The novel describes the experience of a charming yet childish lawyer's wife who wakes up in the body of her alter-ego eighty years previously. It's a chilling tale of entrapment, which closely links to Anna's sculptural work as she reacts to female stereotypes, trapped in their societal roles, trapped in her tufted wool costumes.
ANNA PERACH
annaperach.com
instagram anna_perach
Saturday Apr 02, 2022
Saturday Apr 02, 2022
Guest artist PAOLA BALLA
joins Jillian Knipe for this special edition of ART FICTIONS | Culture Exchange which is part of the UK/Australia Season, a partnership between the British Council and the Australian Government’s Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade.
Paola and I discuss colonisation in a place widely known as Australia, and its corresponding cost to herself, her family and her extensively long ancestral lineage, via poet Ellen van Neerven's 'Comfort Food' published in 2016.
We dive into Ellen's magically rich text as she describes the simplest of dishes alongside racist cruelty. All with the upper hand of calm reflection and a delicious dollop of sensuality.
Paola is extremely generous in sharing her stories of Indigenous hardship which she relays with clarity, humour and warmth . Our conversation expands on Paola's art practice which includes sculptural installation, curation and academia. We hear of the nature of bush dying and the shocking reality of forced encampment of her people, which continued into recent history. Paola shares her take on the mythological Mok Mok with her wild hair and no underwear, as she serves up well meaning treats in track pants and stilettos.
PAOLA BALLA
paolaballa.art
instagram paola_balla
EXHIBITIONS
'Treaty' 2021
'Wilam Biik' 2021
WORKS
'Banner Time' 2021
'Murrup (Ghost) Weaving in Rosie Kuka Lar (Grandmother's Camp)' 2021
'Unconditional Love Space' 2020
BOOKS & WRITERS
Ellen van Neerven 'Comfort Food'
ARTISTS
Vernon Ah Kee
Madeleine Kelly 'Spectra of Birds' 2014-2015
Tuesday Dec 21, 2021
Tuesday Dec 21, 2021
Guest artist INGRID BERTHON-MOINE
joins Elizabeth Fullerton for this special edition of ART FICTIONS | Culture Exchange which is part of the UK/Australia Season, a partnership between the British Council and the Australian Government's Department of Foreign Affairs and Trade.
Ingrid and Elizabeth discuss the absurdity of male domination within cultural identity via film maker Virginie Despentes' novel 'Kong Kong Theory' published in French in 2006 and English 2010. A mix of memoir, autobiographical essay and manifesto, Despentes shapes outrage and resilience alike, as she introduces her own experience of being gang raped. The novel pitches capitalist patriarchy as the true villian; exploiting both men and women, forcing us into rigidly codified, disempowering roles and behaviours that serve the unending cycle of global capitalism.
The conversation sharpens with painful, frustrated outrage and bubbles with giggles around the flop, juice, willy and boobies of genitalia. Ingrid describes her strongly feminist art practice that includes men as she probes ideas around masculinity including her 'I Lack it, I Like it' is instagram project in response to the stupidity of Freud's concept of penis envy.
INGRID BERTHON-MOINE
ingridberthonmoine.com
instagram ingridberthonmoine
instragram lackitlikeit
EXHIBITIONS & PROJECTS
'Hand-Held' 2021 co-curated with Holly Stevenson
'Lack It , Like It' ongoing on instagram
'You Tear Us' 2018 solo exhibition at Kelder Projects
'Looking at a Lack of Perspective' 2017
BOOKS, AUTHORS & FURTHER READING
Byung-Chul Han 'The Disappearance of Rituals'
Camille Froidevaux-Metterie
Camille Paglia
Charlotte Perkins Gilman 'Herland'
Grace Jones
Hettie Judah
Eileen Miles
Etel Adnam
Holly Stevenson
Judy Chicago
Maggie Nelson 'The Argonauts'
Ocean Vuong 'On Earth We are Briefly Gorgeous'
Paul B Preciado 'Testo Junkie'
Sitt Marie Rose
Ursula K Le Guin
Virginie Despentes 'King Kong Theory'
ARTISTS & EXHIBITIONS - mentioned and admired -
Barbara Walker
'Georgia O'Keefe' Centre Pompidou, Paris
'Life Between Islands' Tate Britain
'Magnus Plessen' White Cube
Marcia Michael
'Nicola Tyson' Sadie Coles
'On Hannah Arendt' Richard Saltoun Gallery
Wilma Woolf 'Domestic'
ARTS ORGANISATIONS
Goldsmiths
Mark Tanner Sculpture Award